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Wednesday, April 29, 2009

A Reply... and a clarification, maybe

 

This is a reply to my little sister Ladonna, whom I still love very much and hope she loves me. The rest of you are invited, even encouraged to listen in. 

 

Can I say that Anabaptist theology is, in my humble opinion of course, comes the closest to applying scripture save a couple of minor trivial details. Mennonite Culture, on the other hand, is a whole different story! Mennonite Culture is not a theology.

 

About the last name thing. I know that I was never judged by my last name in our Mennonite circles… wait, do I know that? It says something very definite in our settings. It says right off the bat that I or a parent or a grandparent (no further back then grandparent because the name is basically known to most after a few generations, usually, example, Clugston, McGrath, Warfel) was a transplant from one of our communities. It’s a good thing right? In my case it was my decision and a good one too I should think. But in a world where the name Garthwaite is not one that is ever heard, EVER, it has (most times, in our more conservative venues) brought a look of shock and confusion. I have even had people turn and walk away from me. Why is that? Is that my imagination? I don’t think so. To be fair, I have had people praise the Lord that I was one of them, or that there was new DNA in the culture, I don’t know. I’ve talked to many people, also transplants from their communities, say that they have had similar experiences. Is it a just Mennonite thing? I would say that it’s not. If I were going to the Korean Baptist Church down the road, I would expect that people would wonder why I was there but I would obviously be an outsider.

 

I think that most of the people who have 500 years of Mennonite/Amish background tend to take too lightly what a struggle it can be for people trying to assimilate into a culture that can be frankly hard to understand. Yes, it’s true that your dad many times told me what I was doing wrong as a young man and yes it offended me at times. That was my fault for being too sensitive but I was only that sensitive because I wanted to be one of you so badly. I used to pretend that I was related to you. I know that It’ll sound like a contradiction but when Mark would tell me that I shouldn’t say this of that, or that I shouldn’t do this or that, it was a reminder that I didn’t really have a family like most of the other young people. I know I’m not saying this right, as hard as that is to explain. When I left church the church house on a Sunday morning or left the Festival at the end of the day or came home from church retreat, I went home to that trailer to the single mother that raised me. Every single thing in my life reminded me that I was not as good as everyone else. That may not really be true but in my eyes it was. Every single thing in my life made it clear that I wasn't like the people that I loved and wanted to be like. The unfortunate truth is that there was no way that could be like that.

 

For all of you out there that have the 500 years of history, and a mother and father and brothers and a long history with the same people in the same community and can relate to the same people with the same … sameness, please try to be more patient, maybe a little more sensitive to those of us that live with the scars of sin. Some scars are on the outside where they can be seen, Tatoos, knife wounds, long hair or whatever. Some have emotional scars; deep needs for security and significance and a sense of belonging. Whether we deserve rejection or not by the way we speak, act, carry ourselves, or even intimidate, Christ calls us all to forebear one another. Speak the truth of course, but speak it in love. We need to approach people in love, as equals and not shy away in fear. If people get fed up and leave (which happens with what should be alarming frequency) and think that Mennonites are the worst hypocrits in the world then so what if we have personally done OUR BEST in the way we treated people. By the way, I think that many at Central (especially Mark and Ruth) did their best for me and no I don’t think that Mennonites are the worst people in the world (note that I am still one, though not as conservative). I just think that Mennonite Culture …well, to say the least needs a serious revision! We name the name of Christ not Menno. Menno wouldn’t want us to name the name of Menno I should think. Menno was really an exceptionally accepting and generous man, a radical in a way. I wonder how he would have fared in a Holmes or Lancaster county.

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ooo good post Kent...exceptional really.

As is always the case with the Church, both mennonite and otherwise, asking questions tends to land the questioner in hot water. Jesus asked the toughest questions of his Church...and they killed him for it. Never underestimate the hate that can be found inside the walls of a church. It is astounding.

Thankfully, love (and less importantly acceptance) can be found inside those same walls. I, as a mennonite with "five hundred years" behind me, personally think your view of it is vital, and a lot closer to home than most care to admit.
Posted 4/29/2009 10:52 PM by MuseFluid - reply

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I see what you are saying and agree but I think that the problem is not the mennonite culture but rather human nature.  We want to fill comfortable.  We want to be with people with like experiences because then we know what is expected of us.  This means people who aren't like us, we aren't sure what to say or how to act.  When I lived in the Bapist world there was a pedicgree.  There were certain things I could say or couldn't say, could do or couldn't do.  when I returned back for a reunion a former president that was there when I was, asked my husband if he graduated from teh school becaues I didn't "fit" the pedicgree.  Over here we see some of the same things, brazilians like to be with brazilians and portuguese with portuguese. And when the two mix in an evangelical church, things get interesting to say the least!  the two cultures are very different and that makes conflict.  Not saying it's right, but that is that way it seems to be.  So while the mennonite culutre definately needs to work on this area, it's not hte only place.  Why?  Because we are all human until heaven there will be conflict, hurt, pain, agony, mistakes made, and rejection felt.
Posted 4/30/2009 6:14 PM by restingoneagleswings - reply

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I've said so before...Kent, you are a thinker.  I like you.  The world needs more thinkers with a heart for God.  When we find our identity and worth wrapped up in our culture it makes it much harder to find our identity and worth in Christ.  And, there are still some pharisees in the 21st century, you'd better believe it.  At least that's been my experience.  (Said she of the 500 year anabaptist history and more family than you can shake a stick at.)  =) 
Posted 4/30/2009 9:30 PM by Suzyquekau Xanga Premium Member - reply

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Yikes I'm being talked about and just noticed it!  Lol  So I must...eh want to respond.  I believe if we would look past each other's cultures, whatever they are, and with the eyes of Jesus look at the pains, weaknesses, struggles and dreams we all have.  We would all see how our basic needs are the same.  I always have felt as "unmennonite"  as anyone, but was and still am, drawn to the "mennonite culture" which in its truest form is simply the Anabaptist theology put into practice with real life applications.  Some of the practices  of course, came about by taste or even reaction to a percieved or real evil.  I also believe that our experinces in life has so much to do with how we respond to the cultures around us.  For example,  On Father's day those of us who grew up without a dad in our lives (or with one who hurt us by his actions leaving only pain), will feel totally neglected or missed.  So it was/is with how we view the culture.....some see  mainly the Pharisees, who hurt or angered them. some see the true servants of Christ who loved and gave.  So what's the answer to the mennonite or culture thing? 

 God's Word has the answer. Sad thing is we as people aren't always good at understanding what it says.  What troubles me is that at times God's people read the same Word and get two exact opposite ideas from the same verse!! This then leads to separation from each other...a dismal picture.  But wait there is hope.  With a total faith in the Lordship of Christ comes a willingness to love, (the Cor. kind) and obey the mandates of the Word. These call for all true believers to be of one mind,,,,and to love....to weep and rejoice with each other, to forgive the past, to accept each other, you get the picture,. But this is sooooo hard for us to do.  I for one want to be heard and understood that it is ONLY AS A CULTURE...ANY CULTURE, PRACTICES TRUE BIBLICAL RIGHTEOUSNESS THAT IT IS  RIGHT AND GOOD...Therefore the focus on culture should be minimized and the focus on following Jesus should be maximized. People will still hate you and I. Some will love you and I but that won't be major problem.  We are accepted and loved by the LORD!! PTL 

Love you Kent! Keep on making us think....and under the leadership of our LORD we will stand against the army of evil and will side by side win others to this Abundant life....sry so long...

Posted 4/30/2009 10:41 PM by Mnissle - reply

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Of course I still love you big bro Kent.  Disagreeing is what brothers and sisters do best don't you know.  I thought this explanation to be very good!  Sometimes it's hard to understand what somebody's really trying to say when just reading a xanga post.  I think I got it this time.  I do agree for the most part.  The Mennonite culture is however in my opinion as diverse as any others, and I guess what I was trying to say mostly was don't put all of us in the same box.   In this post you were able to squirm some people out of it and I appreciate it muchly. 

      It definitely takes a lot of courage to love someone unconditionally.  Especially someone who has a lot of prickles.  Your right, we need to look past the outside and into their hearts and love them prickles and all.  Differences natural tendency is to divide whether you come from a Menn church, Baptist, etc.  The challenge is to look past these differences and keep our eyes on Jesus while not neglecting Biblical principles that are very important.

     Anyway basically what I want to say is thanks for the explanation, and discussion, and getting us once again to examine ourselves and our motives.   Keep close to Jesus in this journey and following his footsteps of love and forgiveness.   May you feel the Lord's presence in a special way today!

Love,

Your lil sis

Posted 5/1/2009 12:44 PM by lonnasjoy Xanga Premium Member - reply


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